tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post2231917610823376939..comments2023-10-26T02:38:35.705-07:00Comments on BOOKS and BAIRNS: ChurchUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post-14954611461569522212010-02-24T06:14:20.915-08:002010-02-24T06:14:20.915-08:00I am going to give you my email address, and pray ...I am going to give you my email address, and pray that you'll drop me a note, I am amazed again as I read your blog about how much we have in common. Christ-followers, though not content with what we see in the traditional church, missional, homeschooling, foster/adopt, international adoption longings, and ministry. We also live in Washington. My email is kelleykidsranch@gmail.com, and I would love to connect and become virtual friends if you will. I've been praying for you all night - I can't imagine how you could sleep on a night with so much expectancy. Please keep us posted about Bee and we'll keep praying her home. Praying for peace, protection, and provision!<br /><br />AmyKelley Kids Ranchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09691077297636329699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post-86023468307223228422008-09-22T20:07:00.000-07:002008-09-22T20:07:00.000-07:00My heart goes out to you. Please know that I am p...My heart goes out to you. Please know that I am praying for you and your family. God bless.amhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05920550310044363439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post-45392934987928657312008-09-22T10:55:00.000-07:002008-09-22T10:55:00.000-07:00My wonderful, spirit-filled, Jesus-in-tuned friend...My wonderful, spirit-filled, Jesus-in-tuned friend. I'm fairly certain you've heard from me on countless occassion, so I shan't belabor any point here.<BR/><BR/>I will, however, support you with a {hug} on your journey, and a safe haven to explore and discover this Christ-life as He leads you.<BR/><BR/>:)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05265615183804178890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post-39650180212304558102008-09-22T09:28:00.000-07:002008-09-22T09:28:00.000-07:00People who can not commit to a denomination are do...People who can not commit to a denomination are doomed to float through theological insecurities. This is why the marriage of scripture and tradition is so important. Protestants scoff at this fact but how many RC's do you know who can't define these deep issues? They may reject them or be nonpracticing but if they are truly RC they are sure of what has been set forth by GOD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post-31422782710986199252008-09-21T20:55:00.000-07:002008-09-21T20:55:00.000-07:00I love how real and transparent you are here. Tha...I love how real and transparent you are here. Thank you.<BR/><BR/>For some time I've felt a 'tremor in the force,' if you will, regarding the way we "church." I can tell you what I don't think it should be, but I can't (yet) put my finger on what it <I>should</I> be.<BR/><BR/>Maybe instead of church being the focus of our Christian week, it should be the final rounding-up time, of celebration and such... In other words, like the pie at Thanksgiving; important (it wouldn't be Thanksgiving without it), but not nearly so important as the turkey, gravy, or family seated together. Our daily life (family, work, business) is perhaps where the true discipleship, fellowship, prayer, accountability, etc, should be happening. "Marketplace" Christianity, maybe?<BR/><BR/>Sometimes I imagine fellowshipping with believers from all over, not having to "belong" any singular place (or have churches competing for my salvation to be thru them), but being "part" and "home" many places, with many people...?<BR/><BR/>Your thoughts echo many I've heard lately. Perhaps God is preparing to reveal something? I don't know. But I agree that our current definition of church (or lack thereof) is key.EllaJachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17937838823211562533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post-71541197559642681482008-09-21T18:04:00.000-07:002008-09-21T18:04:00.000-07:00Have you considered stepping out of the box? 11 y...Have you considered stepping out of the box? 11 years ago I would have laughed if someone would have told me that this new year will make 2 years of having been in a home fellowship. We are in MS and have been hurt by a couple of churches here. We are from MI and were not hurt or stale in our former church. All of that said to say we have grown more, blossomed more, loved more our faith has grown by leaps and bounds in these 2 years. Even so we are walking through a crisis of faith and yet ever sure that we are serving the only Sovereign God! What a mighty God we serve! He calls us to fellowship, to help the least of these in any way we can. How can we feed others (physically or spiritually) when so much money goes into a building, payroll and so many other expenses. I know that God still calls some to traditional churches for individual reasons but he also calls some of us out of tradition and into deeper relationships with him. Loveing you even though I've never met you and praying that the Lord will show you and your family what to do in this time of uncertainty.Dawn Sodinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02941123421016176620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post-15155096718304814812008-09-21T17:00:00.000-07:002008-09-21T17:00:00.000-07:00i am new to your blog and i sure wish i could reme...i am new to your blog and i sure wish i could remember how i got here. but i love it! your honesty was like a "fresh breath of air". my hubby and i are in the ministry and i have felt this way even as a *pastor's wife*. so to hear someone say it like it is and ask those questions we all sometimes wonder is awesome. thanks.Growin' With Ithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13475275047957595272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post-42354029581298770632008-09-21T16:28:00.000-07:002008-09-21T16:28:00.000-07:00Boy am I glad you stayed home from church today. A...Boy am I glad you stayed home from church today. And I am glad that you came by to visit so that I could come and read this. <BR/>I have posted about our journey...to long to go into to here.<BR/>We are new to our area and looking for a church. I have sat in services and heard the word of God from the pulpit...and yet just last week was looking around at the faces and saw no reaction. I thought, Wow, I don't know if I want to go here.<BR/>I have been in church where the move of the Spirit was so powerful that it seemed time had stopped. Hearts were broken.....lives changed.<BR/>And then I think people were so happy with what was going on there- eyes turned from God to those around them. I think the people fell in love with each other and the fact that they were loving like they thought they should. <BR/>It all fell apart. It got ugly. It was hard to believe it could go so bad so quickly.<BR/>I write all this to say--I am very concerned about the state of the Church. And I am not talking about a building.<BR/>I guess what I figure is that when the Bible says in the end times there will be a great falling away.....maybe we are in that time. I just want to make sure that I am not one of those...the only way to avoid that...to pursue Him. Pursue Him while being honest with those around me so that they can hold me accountable.<BR/><BR/>I am amazed by the amount of Christians that I blog with that do not belong to a group of believers. We can all leave the church but the problem is still there. If you take the live coals from a barbecue then after awhile all the coals will loose their heat.<BR/>In Acts...the power fell when they were all gathered TOGETHER fasting and praying.<BR/>The thing that was very important to Jesus...that we be one at they are one.<BR/>I could go on and on.....don't give up on the vision.Sharon Brumfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04662853880018410132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post-54059924079374523062008-09-21T15:12:00.000-07:002008-09-21T15:12:00.000-07:00Great post. Thanks for coming by and sharing with...Great post. Thanks for coming by and sharing with me. I can only try to imagine your pain. I wish I could cry with you and hug you, but I understand where you're coming from. Right now I'm suffering from a bit of PP depression, and any trials make the way harder.<BR/><BR/>We're actually unchurched currently. We fellowship with other believers casually in their homes and in ours, but we haven't found a place to BE with the body. Only having been believers for 2 years we've never had a really firm discipleship and grounding in the basics of being in Christ, something I think we've missed out on and that I long for.<BR/><BR/>Praying for you sister!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post-54060258495323646202008-09-21T14:28:00.000-07:002008-09-21T14:28:00.000-07:00Really beautiful post. I completely understand whe...Really beautiful post. I completely understand where you are coming from. I think that we have seasons of being, as you put it, "unmoved." Short times, or more likely, long periods of just going through the motions in the pews while remaining energized in our own personal spiritual lives. I, too, feel often terribly frustrated at times with our congregation. I want to see action! I want to see that fresh air! <BR/><BR/>I don't have any answers. We have been through this several times before in our 8 years at our current church. We came inches away from leaving a few years ago, but somehow God called us to stay. And I can see why He did. Still, there are days when I yearn for tongues of fire visible on everyone's heads, eh?Sarah at SmallWorldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15306137253094526922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post-52304458011618399652008-09-21T14:02:00.000-07:002008-09-21T14:02:00.000-07:00Hi Mary Grace, First I wanted to say thank you for...Hi Mary Grace, First I wanted to say thank you for your reply to my last comment. It sounds like your town is about the same size as ours, so i will just keep waiting and praying. He knows best :)<BR/><BR/>I just wanted to say that I'm praying for you on this issue. For myself, personally, I NEED to fellowship with other believers. But, I also enjoy the vibrancy of our church and can't say how I would feel if it felt "stale". I do have a Godmother who is stong in her faith, loves the Lord, and scares off Jehovah's Witnesses with her knowledge of the Bible. She has not attended church in about 15 years. She got burned out and just gave it up. So, I am always on the fence on this issue. I just hope you find the right fit for yourself and your family.Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642862372348186465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post-86424399864175607382008-09-21T13:06:00.000-07:002008-09-21T13:06:00.000-07:00MG, here is a link to a blog you might like...http...MG, here is a link to a blog you might like...<BR/><BR/>http://connectionschurch.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>It's the blog of George Saylor, pastor of a church plant up in London, Ontario... he talks about the purpose of church in some recent blog posts. (And there is a hilarious video on there too if you haven't seen it elsewhere already.) Anyway, scroll back to his Wii Church sermon messages... you can also listen to them on podcast here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.connectionschurch.ca/<BR/><BR/>I know George from my college days. Anyway, I think you might enjoy it.Mrs. CPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580664806500684921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1163008944016056003.post-27452809924577701652008-09-21T12:51:00.000-07:002008-09-21T12:51:00.000-07:00I'd be happy to share some of my thoughts and our ...I'd be happy to share some of my thoughts and our experiences with you, but it's not necessarily an easy thing to do in a comment box of a blog! ;)<BR/><BR/>If you haven't ever read my non-foster/adoptive blog (<A HREF="http://www.theologicalmusingsblog.com" REL="nofollow">Theological Musings</A>) or listened to a podcast I do each week with a good friend of mine (<A HREF="http://www.beyondtheboxpodcast.com" REL="nofollow">Beyond the Box</A>), those two resources might give you some insight into the journey we've been on.<BR/><BR/>In a nutshell: I've been a pastor, a music minister, a layperson, a non-leadership member of music teams, a professional performer with some high-profile CCM artists, etc., and five years ago, I started questioning the whole system.<BR/><BR/>I found that there is definitely life outside the box of what I now know as "institutional church", and the fellowship I have enjoyed with others outside that framework has been so edifying and so enriching and so beneficial to an ever-deepening relationship with, and life in, Jesus Christ.<BR/><BR/>There are many, many of us in this country who no longer "go to church" because we have discovered another expression of church that is very different, yet very exciting.<BR/><BR/>Feel free to email with questions or comments, or join in the discussion on either of those blogs I linked to.<BR/><BR/>Above all, keep seeking and keep searching. Keep reading the New Testament and asking the questions. I'll be praying with you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com